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	<title>Comments on: New Year, New Focus &#124; Red Apple, Green Apple</title>
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		<title>By: Clare</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 19:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve only been able to read the product description of &#039;Cradle to Cradle&#039; but I couldn&#039;t agree more with the claim that we need to &quot;...take nature itself as our model for making things...&quot; Nature doesn&#039;t waste - all she creates can be safely absorbed back into her life systems. I think humanity&#039;s failure to recognise (and/or respond to) this has been a fundamental flaw in so many of our modern designs.  

Moreover (for what it&#039;s worth), I wonder if there&#039;s a need to challenge the notion of progress. I&#039;ve often felt uncomfortable at the unveiling of new technologies and the hyped-up claims that usually accompany these new innovations. There&#039;s a sense that progress is good, wholly desirable, and that if you point out a weakness you&#039;ve a wish for us all to go back to living in caves and using flints or something. Yet I sense a devouring spirit in much of what is deemed to be &#039;progress&#039;. Creating products which &quot;...can be designed from the outset so that, after their useful lives, they will provide nourishment for something new - continually circulating as pure and viable materials...&quot; is a step in the right direction but there&#039;s still the issue of energy usage too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve only been able to read the product description of &#8216;Cradle to Cradle&#8217; but I couldn&#8217;t agree more with the claim that we need to &#8220;&#8230;take nature itself as our model for making things&#8230;&#8221; Nature doesn&#8217;t waste &#8211; all she creates can be safely absorbed back into her life systems. I think humanity&#8217;s failure to recognise (and/or respond to) this has been a fundamental flaw in so many of our modern designs.  </p>
<p>Moreover (for what it&#8217;s worth), I wonder if there&#8217;s a need to challenge the notion of progress. I&#8217;ve often felt uncomfortable at the unveiling of new technologies and the hyped-up claims that usually accompany these new innovations. There&#8217;s a sense that progress is good, wholly desirable, and that if you point out a weakness you&#8217;ve a wish for us all to go back to living in caves and using flints or something. Yet I sense a devouring spirit in much of what is deemed to be &#8216;progress&#8217;. Creating products which &#8220;&#8230;can be designed from the outset so that, after their useful lives, they will provide nourishment for something new &#8211; continually circulating as pure and viable materials&#8230;&#8221; is a step in the right direction but there&#8217;s still the issue of energy usage too.</p>
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		<title>By: KB</title>
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		<dc:creator>KB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 21:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice one. Be great to have you on board!</description>
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		<title>By: Alistair Duncan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alistair Duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 21:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kester,

This all looks really interesting - count me in and there may be others in the garden too. And on top of what you already suggest I would want to toss in that in the way that marx critiques capital we need radical tools (such as eco-phenomenology and my old favourite Herr Heidegger ) that critique our relation to nature and that go radically deeper than environmentalism and sustainability - living shoots rising from the burnt alchemy maybe!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kester,</p>
<p>This all looks really interesting &#8211; count me in and there may be others in the garden too. And on top of what you already suggest I would want to toss in that in the way that marx critiques capital we need radical tools (such as eco-phenomenology and my old favourite Herr Heidegger ) that critique our relation to nature and that go radically deeper than environmentalism and sustainability &#8211; living shoots rising from the burnt alchemy maybe!</p>
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