Comments on: A Plea for Christian Piracy [1] http://www.kesterbrewin.com/2009/09/07/a-plea-for-christian-piracy-1/ // __ issues. in code. __ // Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:16:18 +0100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: Joan of Quark http://www.kesterbrewin.com/2009/09/07/a-plea-for-christian-piracy-1/comment-page-1/#comment-2131 Joan of Quark Wed, 16 Sep 2009 19:13:41 +0000 http://www.kesterbrewin.com/?p=879#comment-2131 A partial counter-example: pickpocketing is glamorised in the musical versions of Oliver Twist (admittedly, Fagin gets hanged in the book). A partial counter-example: pickpocketing is glamorised in the musical versions of Oliver Twist (admittedly, Fagin gets hanged in the book).

]]> By: Sabio Lantz http://www.kesterbrewin.com/2009/09/07/a-plea-for-christian-piracy-1/comment-page-1/#comment-2111 Sabio Lantz Tue, 08 Sep 2009 11:54:42 +0000 http://www.kesterbrewin.com/?p=879#comment-2111 Buddhism also stresses thinking about the wholesome. Indeed this pirate thing is bizarre. But I guess if they re-write it with Pirates being noble and generous, albeit illegal, they can pull it off. Heck, Christianity re-writes the horrendous Old Testament and then expects us to keep using it ! They seem to have gotten away with it too. Buddhism also stresses thinking about the wholesome.
Indeed this pirate thing is bizarre. But I guess if they re-write it with Pirates being noble and generous, albeit illegal, they can pull it off.
Heck, Christianity re-writes the horrendous Old Testament and then expects us to keep using it ! They seem to have gotten away with it too.

]]> By: KB http://www.kesterbrewin.com/2009/09/07/a-plea-for-christian-piracy-1/comment-page-1/#comment-2110 KB Tue, 08 Sep 2009 06:13:16 +0000 http://www.kesterbrewin.com/?p=879#comment-2110 The difference between pirate material and the two books that you mention is that pirates don't reform. Mr Creep and Burglar Bill both end up turning from their life of crime - so their narratives are 'normalised' by the end of the tale. This occasionally happens in pirate books, but most actually do not normalise, and remain pirates. I think that's a key difference. The difference between pirate material and the two books that you mention is that pirates don’t reform. Mr Creep and Burglar Bill both end up turning from their life of crime – so their narratives are ‘normalised’ by the end of the tale. This occasionally happens in pirate books, but most actually do not normalise, and remain pirates. I think that’s a key difference.

]]> By: Marika http://www.kesterbrewin.com/2009/09/07/a-plea-for-christian-piracy-1/comment-page-1/#comment-2109 Marika Mon, 07 Sep 2009 21:40:37 +0000 http://www.kesterbrewin.com/?p=879#comment-2109 All very interesting, but you fail to account for the important role that Mr Creep the Crook and Burglar Bill played in my childhood reading and watching. All very interesting, but you fail to account for the important role that Mr Creep the Crook and Burglar Bill played in my childhood reading and watching.

]]> By: johngriffiths7 http://www.kesterbrewin.com/2009/09/07/a-plea-for-christian-piracy-1/comment-page-1/#comment-2107 johngriffiths7 Mon, 07 Sep 2009 21:05:04 +0000 http://www.kesterbrewin.com/?p=879#comment-2107 Couple of refs for you. Adam Morgan who wrote the marketing book Eat the Big Fish - called his 2nd book The Pirate Inside because of the number of executives who said to him We want to be pirates but our corporation only allows us to be the navy. Piracy is an old metaphor but Sharp of the Rifles, Mickey Spillane - its an honoured archetype in reaction to institutional thinking. I interviewed Adam about the book a few years ago - here's the ref http://www.planningaboveandbeyond.com/intheirownwords/pirateinside/ Secondly one of my favourite and most subversive political stories comes from Augustine's City of God where he is showing the arbitrary nature of human power. He recounts that Alexander the Great has a pirate brought in front of him for sentence and execution. What do you mean by infesting the seas like this? demanded Alexander. Replied the condemented man I have a ship so you call me a pirate. You have a navy so they call you the emperor. One reason we may admire the pirate (buccaneer) is that as a solo player pirates mimic the aggression of maritime nations and ask why they have the right to create territories on the water. As a postscript you might want to consider that David is actually a piratical character in a landlocked country like Israel. Couple of refs for you. Adam Morgan who wrote the marketing book Eat the Big Fish – called his 2nd book The Pirate Inside because of the number of executives who said to him We want to be pirates but our corporation only allows us to be the navy. Piracy is an old metaphor but Sharp of the Rifles, Mickey Spillane – its an honoured archetype in reaction to institutional thinking.
I interviewed Adam about the book a few years ago – here’s the ref http://www.planningaboveandbeyond.com/intheirownwords/pirateinside/

Secondly one of my favourite and most subversive political stories comes from Augustine’s City of God where he is showing the arbitrary nature of human power. He recounts that Alexander the Great has a pirate brought in front of him for sentence and execution. What do you mean by infesting the seas like this? demanded Alexander. Replied the condemented man I have a ship so you call me a pirate. You have a navy so they call you the emperor. One reason we may admire the pirate (buccaneer) is that as a solo player pirates mimic the aggression of maritime nations and ask why they have the right to create territories on the water.

As a postscript you might want to consider that David is actually a piratical character in a landlocked country like Israel.

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